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PaSnow wrote:misterID wrote:Something has to be done, though, right? China is digging itself in a hole to match the US in tarrifs. Kind of like Russia who tried to keep up with us in an arms race and look what happened to them.
That ship has sailed tho bro. If you think TV's & Iphone's are gonna be built in the US, well, you may be right. They'll be manufactured in rural america for $7.50 an hour & sold in China to the rich for $1200.
Touche America, Touche.
We're talking about currency manipulation, ip theft, etc. It's not just about where things are made.
It's cutting taxes on the rich & taxing the poor. Poor people spend 100% of their income on stuff, alot of it junk made in China. People who make good money or are pure wealth wouldn't notice the increase, or if they're rich enough buy very little made in China.
Don't buy into the insults that its a modern war, he cut taxes to the Wealth class & is taxing the poor via China tariffs. Farmers are getting hurt left over right especially soybean farmers.
Also, Obama CUT the deficit by 11% his second term in office, Trump INCREASED it by 15% each year. He's gotta compensate for that stupidity so he basically implemented this national sales tax on you. Congrats!
Tinypic hosting seems to have shut down, so I can't host there anymore. Here's the image of the graphic from Fox News Sunday: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iIzurS … sp=sharing
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It’s in the fucking DSM-6. The global standard for psychiatric evaluations and definitions. This isn’t up for debate. It’s like arguing pi isn’t 3.14 and an infinite string of numbers.
Yea...it actually is....do you know why there have been 6 plus versions of the DSM? Do you have the foggiest notion? It's because things changed from one volume to the next. So when you quote the DSM it seems like you should know that things that were in the original DSM either do not exist anymore or have been dramatically redefined. Homosexuality is no longer considered a mental illness. It once was. Can you see the parallels here? Of course you can't so let me spell it out.
Saying something is in the DSM is NOT a good argument when the DSM has a long history of changing and redefining things....
Now, go back to telling us all how smart you are...
Calling others bigots because they state the nature of objective reality is a new low for this group. You should be ashamed. It’s no coincidence Mitch finds himself among you.
The irony is not lost on me that I'm being called a bigot for doing an impression of YOU!
- Randall Flagg
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The China problem needs to be addressed. I’m hoping Europe joins with the US on this. The continued theft of IP, the allegations of bugging commercial tech, and the authoritarian nature of Xi’a government, make them the biggest threat of the west in the 21st century.
Anyone else actually been to China? Guangzhou monitors every email its people send. Counterfeit products are a national treasure.
I don’t think it’s improper to consider manufacturing US products in the US, especially as automation approaches. I’d rather companies use the 75k they pay for H1B visas to train Americans, than import foreign labor at the detriment of our citizens.
Re: US Politics Thread
The China problem needs to be addressed. I’m hoping Europe joins with the US on this. The continued theft of IP, the allegations of bugging commercial tech, and the authoritarian nature of Xi’a government, make them the biggest threat of the west in the 21st century.
Anyone else actually been to China? Guangzhou monitors every email its people send. Counterfeit products are a national treasure.
I don’t think it’s improper to consider manufacturing US products in the US, especially as automation approaches. I’d rather companies use the 75k they pay for H1B visas to train Americans, than import foreign labor at the detriment of our citizens.
Once there are people actually willing to discuss things in this thread, I'd love to discuss the H1B visa situation. This (and the way Corporate America uses contractors) are two of my pet peeves in the business arena. The only companies paying H1B employees that low (that I am aware of) are the consulting companies. Cognizant is the worst offender that I've seen, but they all pay these guys as little as possible (sometimes not far from the 75K) and charge corporations $300/hr for them. Then the companies instead of using them to train their employees have them do the actual work while nobody learns how to do it so the company can stop paying ridiculous fees to the consulting company.
Want to get some more money for the American worker instead of screwing over the CEO (who actually has more responsibility than anyone wants to give them credit for)? There's one option...
- Randall Flagg
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At Heinz, they were paying 75-100k for each visa, not even mentioning salary. They were firing every American and getting visas for their Brazilian buddies. It’s no shock they finally got caught up in some things I can’t legally expound on, but read the papers.
I know tech companies are doing the same. I have no issue with recruiting global talent. But we shouldn’t let fortune 100s pay 100k to bring in some dude from India today so they can pay him low six figures, rather than train a qualified and capable American to do that same job.
Automation will allow us to bring manufacturing home over the next 20 years, and that will cripple China.
The US allowing China to have a monopoly in rare mineral production is the biggest national security mistake of the past 50 years.
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misterID wrote:PaSnow wrote:That ship has sailed tho bro. If you think TV's & Iphone's are gonna be built in the US, well, you may be right. They'll be manufactured in rural america for $7.50 an hour & sold in China to the rich for $1200.
Touche America, Touche.
We're talking about currency manipulation, ip theft, etc. It's not just about where things are made.
It's cutting taxes on the rich & taxing the poor. Poor people spend 100% of their income on stuff, alot of it junk made in China. People who make good money or are pure wealth wouldn't notice the increase, or if they're rich enough buy very little made in China.
Don't buy into the insults that its a modern war, he cut taxes to the Wealth class & is taxing the poor via China tariffs. Farmers are getting hurt left over right especially soybean farmers.
Also, Obama CUT the deficit by 11% his second term in office, Trump INCREASED it by 15% each year. He's gotta compensate for that stupidity so he basically implemented this national sales tax on you. Congrats!
Tinypic hosting seems to have shut down, so I can't host there anymore. Here's the image of the graphic from Fox News Sunday: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iIzurS … sp=sharing
I'm still waiting on your idea to solve the China problem 
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In Randall's defense, many, many women, feminists, doctors and scientists agree with him. There's no law that says you MUST agree a person with a penis is a woman if they simply say so.
I'm not sure that's really their goal...
One thing I am tired of is how callously RF talks about these people. It's clear he believe they are less than humans.
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I'm still waiting on your idea to solve the China problem
What China problem?
They manufacture at what, $3-$5 bucks an hour, which allows us to buy $300 dollar TV's at Walmart on Black Friday and $800 mobile phones. You wanna pay $2000 dollars so American employees maake $30/hour doing so, be my guest.
Do me a favor, buy a $2000 dolllar HDTV & post a receipt, I'll be impressed.
Re: US Politics Thread
misterID wrote:I'm still waiting on your idea to solve the China problem
What China problem?
They manufacture at what, $3-$5 bucks an hour, which allows us to buy $300 dollar TV's at Walmart on Black Friday and $800 mobile phones. You wanna pay $2000 dollars so American employees maake $30/hour doing so, be my guest.
Do me a favor, buy a $2000 dolllar HDTV & post a receipt, I'll be impressed.
So you want to pay Americans higher wages including a $15 minimum wage, but you're not willing to pay more for stuff so companies can do that? How does that work?
