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wasted
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

wasted wrote:

That’s the problem with having principles. Corbyn didn’t play the game.

James
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:
James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

It means Brexit will finally happen, the opposition has been defeated and our right wing pm can do anything he wants now. They can no longer be blocked.

It means more misery for most of us.

wasted
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

wasted wrote:
James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

It means Brexit will go through. But what that actually means is another thing. The deal Boris did with the EU is similar to staying in the EU. That’s why Farage hated the deal, it’s not really Brexit.

So I see no changes. But we have lost our LA privileges. We didn’t go down in 3rd. We in the basement. Hopefully Bruce is coming back with a samurai sword. Corbyn was like the gimp.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:
wasted wrote:
James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

It means Brexit will go through. But what that actually means is another thing. The deal Boris did with the EU is similar to staying in the EU. That’s why Farage hated the deal, it’s not really Brexit.

So I see no changes. But we have lost our LA privileges. We didn’t go down in 3rd. We in the basement. Hopefully Bruce is coming back with a samurai sword. Corbyn was like the gimp.

Errr his deal is out off the customs union and single market.

It is nothing like staying in the eu. According their own numbers the country will be something like 80 billion a year worse off, if where to go through.

wasted
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

wasted wrote:
James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

It means Brexit will go through. But what that actually means is another thing. The deal Boris did with the EU is similar to staying in the EU. That’s why Farage hated the deal, it’s not really Brexit.

So I see no changes. But we have lost our LA privileges. We didn’t go down in 3rd. We in the basement. Hopefully Bruce is coming back with a samurai sword. Corbyn was like the gimp.

James
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

James wrote:

My old prediction of the UK becoming a vassal state of the US may have inched one step closer to reality.

wasted
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

wasted wrote:
AtariLegend wrote:
wasted wrote:
James wrote:

I'm not British obviously so  a question from an outsider...

Does this really mean anything? The clusterfuck has been playing out for years and it doesn't seem to matter much who is in the driver's seat...the song stays the same, meet the new boss, same as the old boss...and all that jazz.

It means Brexit will go through. But what that actually means is another thing. The deal Boris did with the EU is similar to staying in the EU. That’s why Farage hated the deal, it’s not really Brexit.

So I see no changes. But we have lost our LA privileges. We didn’t go down in 3rd. We in the basement. Hopefully Bruce is coming back with a samurai sword. Corbyn was like the gimp.

Errr his deal is out off the cutoms union and single market.

It is nothing like staying in the eu. According their own numbers the country will be something like 80 billion a year worse off, if where to go through.

Remember when Hammond said that effectively we would be bound by the same rules but not have a voice in them anymore of May’s deal? That’s still true of Boris’ deal. Leaving without leaving. It’s not instantaneous either, they have rework all this stuff. It took almost 20 years to get the relationship with the EU up and working.

But they are free to strike new deals. But like you said it’s going to be a nightmare, cost more and all these deals have to be redone, taking a decade to sort out. The people will suffer for this, but it allows the rich to fiddle with their cut of the deals. Block imported products to benefit UK businesses. I was reading Private Eye and Leadson has connections to finance services companies that will benefit from the work of getting Brexit done. If you have the power you can divert the money. The EU was kind of sucking a lot of it up but now the elites in the UK can get it for themselves. Doesn’t mean it will be better for us though.

wasted
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Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

wasted wrote:
James wrote:

My old prediction of the UK becoming a vassal state of the US may have inched one step closer to reality.

If Trump and Boris do a trade deal could be. UK doesn’t seem to want to be a socialist country. What Europe will do without the British military not sure. Uk looks like it will become like Taiwan now.

Re: The United Kingdom General Election, 2nd May 2024

AtariLegend wrote:

Oh well... I mean the Tories will definitely lose the next election, right? sad

What's the worst that could happen in 4 1/2 years?

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