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Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
Bono wrote:For those of you interested in the Replacements but haven't really listend to them, they sound alot like Soul Asylum.
is that meant to increase my interest in them? ...if so you failed miserably
haha! Nope. You like whatever you wanna like . The sad part is, and I'm not directing this at anyone in paticular cause I dont' know, but I'd be willing to bet that 99% of the people who have heard of Soul Asylum have never botherd to check out their 80's punk rock. They put out 6 albums before Grave Dancer's Union. Great for them that Runaway Train broke huge but they really got pigeon holed as "that band" and people don't realize how hard they rocked in their younger days. Interesting fact about Soul Asylum. Rolling Stone magazine named them "Best Live Band in America" 8 years running durring the 80's. I believe it was 8 years. Either way it was alot of years.
and no i havent heard anything before that either
Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
Soul Asylum was basically a poor man's Replacements. SA didn't have near the swagger and panache the Mats had....and they didn't have Bob Stinson.:rock:
In your opinion maybe. Soul Asylum were just as punk as the Mats back in the day. I guess being named best live act in America isn't swagger enough 
You can't always say smethng's a "poor man's version" just because they came after. Soul Asylum has David Pirner though who is a much better singer / song writer than anyone in the Mats or Replacements. Plus David Pirner on stage ahs that "it" factor. You can't help but watch him. I can't say the same for the Westerberg of Stinson. Of course that's my opinion only.
Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
"Rolling Stone magazine named them "Best Live Band in America" 8 years running durring the 80's. I believe it was 8 years."
Bono, I call bullshit on that one. I like to see a Rolling Stone source for that. I was in college in the mid eighties and subscribed to Rolling Stone-never remembered that. First of all, no one I knew in the Athens, Ga scene (which was fairly large at the time with REM) ever even mentioned SA. Everything on college radio focused around REM, The Replacements, The Cure, U2, Husker Du, etc.
So, please show a little documentation if you are going to make bold claims. A lot of great american bands during that time frame. I could be wrong, but I just don't remember it.
When SA reissues their entire catalog and starts receiving pretty substantial features in Billboard, Spin and almost every other credible music publication, you let me know. SA is not nearly as influential and critically acclaimed. Please show me any list of greatest albums of all time or greatest albums of the 80's that even has a SA record on it. You will always see 1 or 2 Replacements records. I am not saying SA is bad band, just not quite on the same level with the Mats. Of course, that is my opinion only.
Here are a couple of lists from two different publications that are fairly credible. The Pitchfork list is good. However, any of the 100 could be interchangeable in order depending on your preference. No SA-WHAT ? The best live band of the 80's with that great songwriter with no classic albums? The Replacements have 2 albums on the Rolling Stone list in the top 250 and 3 albums in the top 100 for Pitchfork. My opinion is shared by others. I could get more lists if you would like, but I am at least providing some sources to back up my claims.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/f … -the-1980s
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/ … f_all_time
***ding ding** round 1 Bono vs Madagas....just like the old days. Oil and Water don't mix.:haha:
Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
My God! What is this? I never stated Soul Asylum were more influential. Hell read my original post. I actually said it was the Replacements and Husker Du who influenced Soul Asylum. I never once tried to pass SA off as a huge influential 80's band. I'm not a fucking idiot. This isn't a Soul Asylum vs the Mats / Replacements thing for me. Why make it that? I like both bands but YES in my opinion David Pirner is a better singer / song writer than Westerberg. Do I need publications and critical acclaim to share my opinion for it to be a valid one? No I don't. I'm also not gonna bother searching for that source about my comment that Rolling Stone had Soul Asylum as thier best live band in America for 8 years running back in the day. I read it, I know it, end of story as far as I'm concerend. Why would I make something like that up? Especially outta the blue. It wasn't ment to be a "Well Soul Asylum are much better than the Replacements and here's why and they sold more albums and blah blah blah. " I dont' give a shit about that stuff and only a loser would come in here and make up some random bullshit coment. What would I have to gain by it? You can choose to believe that I read what I say I read or not. That's up to you. It was you who came in here and turned this into a Vs thing. "Soul Asylum a poor Man's Replacements and Mats had much more swagger and blah blah blah". Why even turn the conversation into that?
Sorry Neemo. I'm done with the Soul Asylum vs Replacements thing. Not that I even wanted to get into that to begin with at all. But Tommy did play for both bands so isnt' the conversation relevant?
Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
Some prefer pastries to steak.:lol: Your opinion is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. From what I read you do have good musical taste. I guess the Pirner vs Westy thing ruffled my feathers a bit (not hard to do).
Actually, if the Replacements do a reunion tour, SA would be a perfect touring partner. Would be a cool show.:thumbup: You could bill it "The Who Screwed Winona First Tour.":haha:
Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
bump****Westerberg talking about Tommy and Gnr and where Tommy's head is at these days. Make of it what you will.
Pitchfork: Talking to Tommy a couple of years ago, I got the impression that after all that hard work, after all those miles on the road, that what he's doing right now [as a member of Guns n' Roses] is in some ways his reward. Finally play arenas, get kept on a retainer...
PW: If you talked to him more recently you might get a different vibe. But you know, that's fairly true. It was a couple of years ago that he probably felt that. But now he's thinking more artistically. I heard a batch of his songs he sent me. I added a few things and sent it back. He wants to be more of an artist now. That's just the way it goes. You're a performer for ten years straight, then you want to go home and actually write a tune or whatever. But he more than any of us is sort of built for the stage. If he goes without performing for a long time then he can't stay still.
PW: It was that one fucking poster in Europe...if they ever make a movie about us, that was "the moment." The German promoter comes in and shows us the poster with me, "Paul Westerberg and the Replacements." In German or whatever. Tommy ripped it in half and said "that's fucking it" and stormed out. I thought, there it is, we're done.
You think Tommy ever gave Axl the "that's fucking it" line and stormed out? Something happened before the first Hammerstein show in 2006 when Axl hugged him on stage before TWAT.
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Re: Tommy/Westerberg consider a Replacements reunion
"Rolling Stone magazine named them "Best Live Band in America" 8 years running durring the 80's. I believe it was 8 years."
Bono, I call bullshit on that one. I like to see a Rolling Stone source for that. I was in college in the mid eighties and subscribed to Rolling Stone-never remembered that. First of all, no one I knew in the Athens, Ga scene (which was fairly large at the time with REM) ever even mentioned SA. Everything on college radio focused around REM, The Replacements, The Cure, U2, Husker Du, etc.
So, please show a little documentation if you are going to make bold claims. A lot of great american bands during that time frame. I could be wrong, but I just don't remember it.
When SA reissues their entire catalog and starts receiving pretty substantial features in Billboard, Spin and almost every other credible music publication, you let me know. SA is not nearly as influential and critically acclaimed. Please show me any list of greatest albums of all time or greatest albums of the 80's that even has a SA record on it. You will always see 1 or 2 Replacements records. I am not saying SA is bad band, just not quite on the same level with the Mats. Of course, that is my opinion only.
Here are a couple of lists from two different publications that are fairly credible. The Pitchfork list is good. However, any of the 100 could be interchangeable in order depending on your preference. No SA-WHAT ? The best live band of the 80's with that great songwriter with no classic albums? The Replacements have 2 albums on the Rolling Stone list in the top 250 and 3 albums in the top 100 for Pitchfork. My opinion is shared by others. I could get more lists if you would like, but I am at least providing some sources to back up my claims.
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/f … -the-1980s
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/ … f_all_time***ding ding** round 1 Bono vs Madagas....just like the old days. Oil and Water don't mix.:haha:
Those list are both shit
Esp the 80s one. How can any 80s list not have AFD or The Joshua Tree in the top 5? De La soul over both of them, give me a break
