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Re: Current Events Thread
misterID wrote:slashsfro wrote:LOL, cmon man you're smarter than this to fall for Tucker's BS. The Republican Secretary of State has certified the results multiple times and they have people on the ground to count, etc. And they are whole lot more reliable than Tucker Carlson.
For those who don't know, Carlson got sued (technically FNC) and their defense was he more or less makes up shit.
I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because this has been an issue for years. I don't see anything wrong with proving who you are to vote. And as I said, fraud could be significant in local elections.
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mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:I don't think there was any significant fraud, but all cable networks and radio stations use that as a legal defense. You just don't hear about it when they're sued. Maddow and Lawrence got busted in a lot of lies during the Trump years. It's basically, they're not journalists, but entertainers and aren't meant to be taken seriously. The fact Joy Reid has a job is mind boggling.
I think voter fraud has the ability to sway a local election, though. And voter suppression is the left's voter fraud conspiracy. Neither are significant in any way.
Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because this has been an issue for years. I don't see anything wrong with proving who you are to vote. And as I said, fraud could be significant in local elections.
I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.
I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.
You’d have near 100% support if you did that.
That’s how i know this is partisan….
Re: Current Events Thread
misterID wrote:mitchejw wrote:Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because this has been an issue for years. I don't see anything wrong with proving who you are to vote. And as I said, fraud could be significant in local elections.
I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.
I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.
You’d have near 100% support if you did that.
That’s how i know this is partisan….
I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.
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Re: Current Events Thread
Fulton County’s continued failures have gone on long enough with no accountability. Rick Barron and Ralph Jones, Fulton’s registration chief, must be fired and removed from Fulton’s elections leadership immediately. Fulton’s voters and the people of Georgia deserve better.
— GA Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (@GaSecofState) July 15, 2021
Everyone knows Fulton County is dirty.
- Smoking Guns
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Smoking Guns wrote:mitchejw wrote:Well if it’s not significant then why all the new laws addressing it?
Because dip shit each vote is a sacred thing and should be treated as such. Plus a few hundred here and there across a whole state CAN change an election
Uh huh? So why not address the voter fraud in Trumps favor?
Let’s address them!!!! Put them in jail!
- Smoking Guns
- Rep: 330
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mitchejw wrote:misterID wrote:Because this has been an issue for years. I don't see anything wrong with proving who you are to vote. And as I said, fraud could be significant in local elections.
I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.
I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.
You’d have near 100% support if you did that.
That’s how i know this is partisan….
I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.
If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.
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misterID wrote:mitchejw wrote:I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.
I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.
You’d have near 100% support if you did that.
That’s how i know this is partisan….
I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.
If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.
Yep...there are certain people who don't deserve to vote.....despite their legal right to do so...
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misterID wrote:mitchejw wrote:I’d agree with you if you’d simply acknowledge our election participation rates are shit.
I see this for what it is…widling away our electorate with a clear goal in mind. Let’s do voter ID….cool…but you better make sure everyone who deserves one has one.
You’d have near 100% support if you did that.
That’s how i know this is partisan….
I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.
If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.
What IDs are available in America? Anything beyond Drivers License or Passport?
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Smoking Guns wrote:misterID wrote:I agree, but people need the gumption to get the ID. There are already organizations and places to help people get their ID. I think, and this is just my opinion, but if you're not motivated to go get an ID you're most likely not going to vote anyway.
If you don’t have an id, you probably not informed enough to vote anyway. This is such a stupid talking point.
What IDs are available in America? Anything beyond Drivers License or Passport?
Those are the main two as a far as I know...you can get just a government issued ID that looks like a driver's license but isn't. I don't know many people who have both a DL and a government issued ID bc they're basically the same thing.
- Smoking Guns
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Recap from Arizona Audit.....
1) impression that audit was 100% transparent and presenters were 100% authentic and reliable.
2) REMEMBER WHEN I GOT REAMED OVER ROUTERS? HAHAHAHAHA <<<<<<< ---------
3) "SharpieGate" was real and legit. "Bleed-resistant" ballots was false. (proven by photos).
4) No documentation on first bullet-point below. (70,000 ballots in question)
5) Chain of custody issues on received mail in/drop box ballots
6) Maricopa claim of 'Potential law enforcement personal information' is bogus, only request was for configurations of system.
7) Law enforcement involvement on shared systems (strange) was due to investigation into (proven) breach bullet-point three below
8) Maricopa County stalled and withheld and unwilling to answer questions- contact the lawyers.
9) MAJOR unanswered questions re: passwords + authentication codes and who had access - currently appears either Dominion ONLY had admin-access or Maricopa is lying. Dominion is 3rd party, so unless Maricopa had access to verify the results, the results could not be verified.
10) Front/back printers were ridiculously out of calibration, resulting in bleed-through, despite Maricopa/Runbeck assurances of bleed-proof paper.
11) multiple documentation issues, possible solved by Maricopa, but Maricopa is not cooperative.
12) 37,000 QUERIES FOR "BLANK PASSWORDS" submitted to system in ONE day- each inquiry eliminated one (oldest first) line of data, meaning NO data available from date of inquiry (Feb/Mar) back to November election.
