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Re: So what's going to happen to the forums once CD drops...
mickronson wrote:The forum goes down quite frequent as it is, I dont wanna think about when it does
drop. Time to upgrade provider guyswe're working on it...
Yeah, if anything there will be more traffic heading to GNR sites. GNR will gain new fans and excite old ones...I heard a guy say he thinks CD isn't so great because he only liked 5 songs off the record...If every fan enjoys 3-5 songs off the album, it's a success IMO...Also, we all know that most albums take time to consume, and I'm sure 6 months after it's release we'll all appreciate a certain song more than we did on 11/23.2008
Re: So what's going to happen to the forums once CD drops...
If we could see tomorrow
What of your plans
It is said of the original lineup of the band that poverty brought them together and helped them bond with each other. When they hit paydirt, things just weren't the same anymore. They just lost the sense of camaraderie, which is what often happens in relationships. Hearts grow out of the old framework and people either move on or remain dwelling in the past, yet never I've met a person not feeling even the slightest sting of fuzzy nostalgia and old warmth for the times they once had with people who've ceased to exist as the personalities they were back then.
The same with us, really. The common bond we all have here is the anticipation of the mythical album. For years now, we've been the last line of defense; everyone else had given up, if not hope, than at least the wait. We've been the ones who've endlessly debated, analyzed and speculated every other rumor, interview, leaked track, what have you. Now this thing is gearing up again, and while we all may experience a degree of relief and satisfaction, I think it's safe to assume I'm not alone in feeling that we're on the brink of losing something precious to the world by far and wide, as the mythical album will soon enter global consciousness and mass-media consumption.
I know the things you wanted
They're not what you have
With all the people talkin' it's drivin' you mad
When everyone else gave up, CD begun yet another phase in its curious half-life as a music history curiosity. It got into an even greater self-censoring secret, an almost esoteric phenomena available only to those who'd care. We all cared, perhaps sometimes more than we should've, and eventually, we were rewarded. We got the first dips on everything, we were all there when the leaks happened; like kids in a candy store, the Great Leak Night is one of my most treasured memories of GNREvo. It was just so much fun to log in, check out the chat room and find all my online friends and rivals unified behind the single fact that this was the night our collective hearts skipped a beat.
Of course, we had to adjust to a lot of things. Prostitute was the first trial by fire for many of us on the road to a release. That track'd been around for over a decade, doing rounds in Axl's studio, with a handful of comments by the press and the studio crew building it into the song that'd encompass both CD and Axl's talent, direction and future success. The baggage was simply too great for any track to endure, as they could exist as all things to all people solely under the pretext of never being heard in public. It was a well-earned slap in the face to come to terms with what Prostitute actually was and what it stood for, as it was not our track to begin with.
However, the general gut reaction to the idea of Song #2 being Prostitute speaks volumes of how the gears are already shifting in our midst. Chinese Democracy is about to become reality and the dream album will die at the minute the first units are sold.
I thought I could live in your world
As years all went by
With all the voices I've heard
Something has died
What now remains is for us to see this thing through and come to terms with the fact that the myth is now a Best Buy exclusive. Over the years, CD has received numerous tags, definitions and punchlines, yet I hope I'm not out of my depth to say it also represents (in varying amounts) all the things many of us have sought in life, the dreams unfulfilled. Things we wait on for, things that'll brighten our day and make our plight more bearable. For Axl, it may be just an album. But seriously, who here in their right mind can say that after all these years, for them, CD has always 'just an album'?
You don't wait for 'just' an album for so long. You don't spend all this time delving the matter for 'just' an album. In the 21st Century pop culture mythology, CD represents the return of the conquering hero, the man who once was king. Ulysses, who'd been away for 20 years, returns to his home isle of Ithaca and re-establishes his kingdom which had fallen into astray, killing the unwanted suitors and claiming his loyal wife Penelope as his rightful spouse. In mythological terms, I believe that's the core of CD's lure. We bought into the stories long ago about Axl coming back and setting the record straight (forgive the pun), and clung to it like mad. And frankly, I think the CD saga makes for a pretty good story on its own.
But now, as Ulysses sheds the disguise of the beggar, we're about to see that the outcome is nothing we've ever hoped for. What will come of the band and the album now is anyone's guess. The only certainty is that we will now have to learn to live with the fact that the king is finally out there, doing battle against the suitors of his fair lady, and ultimately, there's very little the few disgruntled loyalists can do to aid his cause in the grand scheme of things. This is one battle Axl needs to win on his own - otherwise, he could never reclaim the imaginary mantle again.
And when you're in need of someone
My heart won't deny you
So many seem so lonely
With no one left to cry to baby
Again, where does this leave us? Will we find our camaraderie shattered beyond repair, will the smart ones jump ship in the first moments of crisis, will the rest remain maintaining an illusion of yesteryear, distancing from one another each day?
Honestly, I can't say. While I've personally invested a great deal of personal spare time to the forums and GNREvo in particular, I've never let James go before acknowledging the fact that I'll be around 'as long as it's fun'. I think most of us are here for the same reason. When/if it gets tedious, when something fun turns into a chore or an obligation, that's the day you quit. On a hindsight, that may sound a bit harsh, but the fact is that no-one's getting much anything else out of this than a sense of belonging into a community which is greater than the sum of its parts. If you grow out of it, it's best for everyone to take the high road and explore other avenues in life. I tend to attribute that to not only GNREvo, but other parts of my life as well. And this forum really is a part of my life, no matter how pathetic it may sound to people more insecure than yours truly.
Maybe, just maybe, we're about to experience a coming to age as a community. No more do we need to cite Ulysses, as we'll now have the opportunity to try being a little bit more normal fans. People who go to the gig in a city near them, buy the latest album, see the new video, read yet another promotional interview, etc. Maybe we'll manage to reassess our relationship to Uncle Axl.
Some people will bail out, some newcomers will stick. What the number of regulars will eventually be, I won't try guessing. But I think, as the long day closes, the community will still stand tall.
Except for one thing.
Nothing will ever be the same again.
Re: So what's going to happen to the forums once CD drops...
what more could i say after sic.'s post?
the ones that lasted all these years, we'll still be here. because this is the only place where you get to meet people that understand what waiting for this album meant. none of my friends would understand how much this means to me, having some closure of this saga. if they knew how close i've been following this record they'd think i'm crazy. we're the gnr geeks if you want. and we'll always be. and we'll stick together probably, even after the album is out.
and we still have subjects to argue about 
there's still reunion rumors, old vs. new debates (now with an album from the new 
), a new album probably as i doubt this will be the last gnr album. we'll still be here.
