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James
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

James wrote:

The closet we will likely get to a reunion will look something like this:

Axl
Finck
Izzy
Duff(maybe)
Dizzy
Frank(or someone new. I doubt Brain would be interested).

polluxlm
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

polluxlm wrote:
Jameslofton wrote:

My reunion theories have now officially come to an end.

You know what that means...in 12 months...

A Private Eye
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

I still think one day Slash and Axl will reunite, perhaps not in the forseable future but I still think it'll happen.

James
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

James wrote:
A Private Eye wrote:

I still think one day Slash and Axl will reunite, perhaps not in the forseable future but I still think it'll happen.

I believe they will share the stage at the Hall of Fame, but thats it.

Axl ran his mouth too much. If he had concentrated on putting an album out instead of thinking about Slash all the time, there might have been a chance for reconciliation. However, it never happened, and Axl just tours on old accomplishments. I can see why he is shutting the reunion door.

sic.
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sic. wrote:

Just how did that "new Guns" come about? It started when Axl and the band's manager had the other members of the band sign a contract that gave Axl control of the group name if they ever broke up.

Slash and Duff, more precisely.

Then on August 31, 1995 Axl dropped a bomb on Duff and Slash, the only remaining members at the time, when sent them a letter "saying he was leaving the band and taking the name with him under the terms of the contract." Of course, Slash and Duff were invited to still be part of Axl's band, but you'll have to read to book to learn more about how that worked out.

I guess I'll have to take a look at that book, then. The 08/31/95 letter from Axl was always one of the big question marks in the CD saga; it was undoubtedly sent, as it would later appear as material evidence in the 2004 S&D v. A lawsuit. However, Slash himself has gone on the record saying Axl bought the GNR name from them, which did raise some questions.

Now, if things had worked out the article suggests, I find it hard to believe Axl would've had to pay a dime to either Slash or Duff while acquiring the name.

If anyone who has the book would like to transcribe the significant parts of this issue here, we might be able to stop chasing our own tails.

buzzsaw
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buzzsaw wrote:

I will when I get there.  I'm at the point where Matt just joined the band, so about 2/3 of the book was about his childhood and the AFD years.  Most of it focused on his drug usage.

buzzsaw
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

buzzsaw wrote:

OK - I'm going to give you MY interpretation of what Slash wrote in the book.  This is how I read it and it may not be how it was intended to be taken.  (/disclaimer)

Axl and the rest of the band rarely hung out together post AFD tour.  The band fired Steven and also fired their manager.  Slash was given the responsibility to replace Steven, Axl replaced the manager with Doug Goldstein (an Axl yes man).  Axl contacted the rest of the band through Doug and did not speak to any of them directly.  Izzy kept his distance from everybody as he didn't want to be around the drinking and drugs and eventually quit after one of Axl's temper tantrums onstage.  He finished out that leg of the tour after quitting and that was that. 

Axl tried to force Dave Navarro on the rest of the band and made Slash try to audition him a 4th time after Dave failed to show 3 other times.  Eventually Gilby was hired.  Axl was blowing money like crazy - Slash estimates 80% of the money they made from that tour was blown on the tour with the extra musicians, the parties Axl hired his brother and sister to host at every show, and all the other excess things Axl wanted on their days off.  The last leg of the tour was scheduled only because they were low on cash and had to strip down the show so they could make a profit.

When the time came to do the next album, Gilby was fired by Axl without telling anybody and Huge was brought in.  They went along with it until Slash found out that Axl had Huge re-record Slash's parts note for note.  Slash decided that was it and called Doug to tell him he quit and hung up before Doug could respond.  Duff left shortly afterward and Matt was fired for defending Slash when Axl badmouthed him.

There are other details if you read the book, but that is the gist of Slash's version of events.  Slash mentions several times that this is his version of how things went down adn he's sure Axl has his own version that is just as true in his mind as Slash's is in his mind. 

The one thing that he unintentionally makes clear to me at least is that neither of them are telling the whole truth, just the truth from their own perspective (which we kind of knew, but they've never admitted).  I'm sure Axl feels he had good reasons for staying away from the band and I'm sure the band felt justified in their stance against Axl.  Either way, it's kinda fucked up that it ever got to that point without ANYBODY being strong enough to stop it before it got out of control.

As stated earlier, this is just my opinion and I am loosely interpreting the only opinion that we have out there at this time.  (/disclaimer II)

RussTCB
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

RussTCB wrote:

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buzzsaw
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Re: Slash's Version Of The Bands Break-Up

buzzsaw wrote:

With the extra musicians, according to the book Axl put Slash in charge of finding them and hiring them.  There was no indication that he was responsible for wanting them.  Every comment he made indicated he loved the huge stage, but wanted a stripped down version of the show from an extra musician standpoint.

RussTCB
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RussTCB wrote:

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