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#311 Re: Guns N' Roses » The Screwedtape Letters, Ch. 1: No new music, ever » 229 weeks ago

Sky Dog wrote:

Peyote today? axl

Even worse, theology.

#312 Guns N' Roses » Guns N' Roses List of Excuses (1986-Present) » 229 weeks ago

exoterica
Replies: 11

I will require fan assistance for this massive undertaking.

  • 2001 - "Buckethead illness" - European Tour (June, December) cancelled, Album delayed

  • 2002 - US tour cancelled by ClearChannel

  • 2004 - "Buckethead's departure" - Tour cancelled, Album delayed)

  • 2005 - "The album is coming" - The Very Best of Guns N' Roses was cancelled due to the album coming soon.

  • 2006 - "Finishing Chinese Democracy" - US tour dates cancelled (October and again December, January)

  • 2007 - "Tommy breaks his hand" - Africa dates cancelled

#313 Guns N' Roses » The Screwedtape Letters, Ch. 1: No new music, ever » 229 weeks ago

exoterica
Replies: 2

New music? That you haven't heard before?

Oh, silly, silly little plebe! What amusing little conniptions and fantasies your small, little, limited, low-born minds do conjure! Everybody knows, no, no, scratch that, everybody and even their most distant and unpleasant relations know the one immutable, inscrutable, undeniable, un-non-absolutely undefiable truthy truthy in the world that exists is that you simply cannot release new music files without first embarking on a proper tour. I mean, goodness. It is, plaintively, what we call, the brass tacks.

Why?

Oh, how dare you even question. Such is not your place - questioning, poking, prodding, your place is listening and obeying. But alas, we are feeling generous today, yes we are. You see, it is simple economics, dollars and cents. Dollars and sense, both of which evade your grubby little, dirty little paws. You see, economics. We sell The Great New Music Tour and the dullards-err, the fans, yes, the fans, the loyal fans, the handsomest audience you can possibly imagine comes rushing through the gates like livestock to the slaughter. And then, come the glorious secondary and ancillary revenues - the soda pop commercials, the fast food advertisements, the product-tie ins, it's enough to make a grown man cry.

What's that?

I said, what is that, you pathetic little worm? That the Great One, never to be questioned, never to be refused, doesn't engage in these sorts of behaviors and considers them beneath the Weight of His Great Greatness? That it's immaterial because 90% of the setlist will never, ever change lest there be pitchforks and torches and cats and dogs running together in the streets? Hmm, I must admit, I had not thought of this before. Who put you up to this... argumentation? It is queer and most confusing. We must resume the policy of non-questioning and obeying at once. Yes, that will put a stop to all this unpleasant feeling.

You're saying the album that we release hardly has a chance in hell at catching on in mass markets anyway? And even if it did, that there is no shelf life to classic works of art? Bolderdash! You see... you must see. The truth, yes, the truth. The truth that this is fine! Yes, this is fine and I have no doubts, no doubts whatsoever! Everyone knows! You cannot release music before touring! It is madness, it is suicide, it is evil!

What do you mean, everything is an excuse?

So you're telling me that if the band continues the previous tour intended for the year of our Lord 2020, that it merely serves as an additional rationalization that no new music should be delivered for years - that the general public requires a break, a breather, a sabbatical from the world of the roses and the guns? No, no, no! This is not right. You are wrong, with your logic puzzles and cunning turns of phrase.

The snake's tail has not been eaten. It cannot. The snake's tail can never be eaten. It is simply not possible.

Please resume your mindless consumption.

Orangewood

#314 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 229 weeks ago

mitchejw wrote:
Wagszilla wrote:

In light of Bri’s thread, this comment stuck out.

bigbri wrote:

Axl's [Rose, GN'R singer] not gonna go for this.' And [the tour manager] is, like, 'It's John Sykes, man. He learned the songs.

Tommy Stinson and Del James are the bagmen in countless new GNR capers including the bullying of Buckethead (and Bumblefoot), tour delays, hostilities towards fans and much more.

Who do you think are the Top 5 parties?

1. Axl
2. Beta
3. Del James
4. Bob Ezrin
5. Tommy Stinson

I'm unaware of the bullying. I thought BH left because of the inactivity.

Tommy and Del bullied BH

Tommy and Del bullied BBF (and Robin/Fortus didn’t exactly welcome him)

#315 Re: The Garden » NFL 2019 » 230 weeks ago

I haven’t checked lately but LA was mortgaged up to the hilt. They’re in “win now” mode so the draft picks are a casualty.

It seems like a mutually beneficial thing. Detroit has stock to rebuild properly, Stafford got out of Detroit and to LA where he owns a house.

Goff is not good though.

#316 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New Bucket & Viggo—free streaming » 230 weeks ago

Utterly tedious movie.

I think the piano playing is Bucket. It has the same sort of Bach, Chopiny qualities from Electric Sea. (There’s hardly any guitar in the movie too.)

I’ll take a listen to the soundtrack. It seemed nice but a little too loud, needed to be scaled back finger to the key, especially for the moments where the score was used.

#317 Re: Dust N' Bones & Cyborg Slunks » New Bucket & Viggo—free streaming » 230 weeks ago

I'll listen after I check out the movie.

Viggo is a great actor, hopefully his transition to directing is more successful than most ex-actors.

#318 Re: Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 230 weeks ago

James wrote:

1. Label politics

I’m open minded but I don’t agree.

Axl was either far too comfortable playing their game or lacked any sort of courage to take a stand.

Other acts have gotten the short shrift because of new acts coming on the scene. Other acts have gone with legal action to get some of their integrity and rights back. Other acts have called foul over industry practices. Other acts have managed to suck it up and take the hit and keep pressing on.

A contributing factor? Sure.

At the end of the day, he got $14m, countless industry people working on his behalf, etc. etc.

It’s a hard sell for me, barring specifics.

#319 Re: Guns N' Roses » Holy shit!?! John Sykes auditioned for GNR???? » 230 weeks ago

Oh look more Tommy and Del having too much pull while Axl is nowhere to be found. It’s comical at this point.

#320 Guns N' Roses » Top 5 Responsible for New GNR’s failure » 230 weeks ago

exoterica
Replies: 17

In light of Bri’s thread, this comment stuck out.

bigbri wrote:

Axl's [Rose, GN'R singer] not gonna go for this.' And [the tour manager] is, like, 'It's John Sykes, man. He learned the songs.

Tommy Stinson and Del James are the bagmen in countless new GNR capers including the bullying of Buckethead (and Bumblefoot), tour delays, hostilities towards fans and much more.

Who do you think are the Top 5 parties?

1. Axl
2. Beta
3. Del James
4. Bob Ezrin
5. Tommy Stinson

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